Saw guard upgrade for Mark V

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12 years 1 month ago #7514 by Ron Roberts
Ron Roberts replied the topic: Re: Saw guard upgrade for Mark V
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but the difference between a 505 and a 510 is the two floating tables, connecting tubes, and the telescoping legs. Casters and a few other things might also be involved, I forget. But as I understood it the 505 was created as a sort of stripped down 510 to meet a price point when they were presenting demos with Lowe's. I don't know if they still offer that or not with Home Depot now or what. But as far as I know they don't offer a 500 to 505.

All that said I think the roughly $255 sale price difference between the 500 to 510 upgrade and the 500 to 520 would be money very well spent. The 510 was a great idea that didn't quite get there in my opinion whereas the 520 fence and rails did in a big way.

Regarding setting the 520 up in it's full regalia it's not very involved at all. To me it's similar to the people I've heard complain about the changeovers with the Mark V taking "too long". Most of us aren't in production environments to begin with so what defines too long? To me setting up the 520 and changing the configuration is quick once you get used to it which only takes a session or two. I don't always need all the tables and the connectors and telescoping legs but when I do they're there and setup quickly.

So we probably aren't helping are we? You asked about the 500 saw guard upgrade now sale priced at about $100. It's a long way from there to $940 for the 500 to 520 but there's also a long difference too in performance. I "fought" that upgrade for several years but once I did it I've never looked back and it was a good investment for me. The sale price right now isn't a lot higher than I paid for it several years ago during a Traveling Academy.

If you need a note to your wife Ed will be glad to write it! :lol:

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12 years 1 month ago #7522 by jamesk
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I won't need a note for my wife. I'll just order it, and then do the explaining when the delivery truck pulls up to the door. Sound like a plan?

But, actually, I would like to know the differences between the 510 and the 520 in terms of actual operations. It seems the to me the only difference is when carrying out tasks using the rip fence - mainly ripping on the table saw. Other operations, such as sanding, cross cutting, etc. would not be much different for the 510 vs 520. Or am I missing something here?

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12 years 1 month ago #7526 by Jim in Tucson
Jim in Tucson replied the topic: Re: Saw guard upgrade for Mark V
It's mostly about the rip fence and the 520s is really nice, the floating tables also line up better for me with the 520.

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12 years 1 month ago #7527 by Ron Roberts
Ron Roberts replied the topic: Re: Saw guard upgrade for Mark V
Sounds like a great plan. One I use often anyway. Shoot first and ask questions later although I did talk about my upgrade before I ordered it. The only problem I've had of late is that she doesn't see the wisdom of having several Mark V's. I keep telling her it's "just temporary". :wink:

In my never to be humble opinion there is NO difference in the operation of any version of the Mark V or even the 10ER that matter. Dr. Goldschmidt was a genius and the base concept hasn't changed. What has are things like the power plant, tables, castings, fences, etc. So while the Mark V is more "streamlined" than the 10ER and the 520 has a better fence than the 510, the basic operations haven't changed. I'm sure that many of us could elaborate on a host of differences over the years (motor HP, drive system, tube wall thickness, carriage, fence, table, arbor, tool rest, etc, etc) none of these really changed the basic concept as designed and introduced by Dr. G.

One way I would support my contention is that R.J. DeCristoforo didn't write completely new books each time there was a change. He simply updated or upgraded what he had. Even the most recent version which was revised by several people is essentially the same book. My opinion anyway.

So again in my opinion not only is there not much difference there is no difference between operating a 510 and a 520 or even a 500 for that matter. What is different is the fence as you point out. The 510 to 520 upgrade is entirely fence (and rails & straddler). You're not missing anything.

Congrats on your upgrade. I think you are going to really appreciate it.

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12 years 1 month ago #7528 by reible
reible replied the topic: Re: Saw guard upgrade for Mark V

I won't need a note for my wife. I'll just order it, and then do the explaining when the delivery truck pulls up to the door. Sound like a plan?

But, actually, I would like to know the differences between the 510 and the 520 in terms of actual operations. It seems the to me the only difference is when carrying out tasks using the rip fence - mainly ripping on the table saw. Other operations, such as sanding, cross cutting, etc. would not be much different for the 510 vs 520. Or am I missing something here?


I have a bit of a difference of opinion on the 510/520 being all that close to being the same. The rail system on the 520 is in my opinion a much better system. On the 510 you have tubes rather then the extrusions. The knobs to tighten the tubes in place are harder to get you fingers on and they push the tubes forward... the 520 the knobs are below and easy to work with and they push the tubes up. I've read a lot of complaints about the 510 fence stradding the saw table and the extension tables... something I did not experence but many must have. I've never seen anyone have this issure with the 520. The 510 is not designed for scales while the 520 is... if you learn to start using it then it can be a big advantage. Think about it as driving an '80 car verses '00 cars, the form and fit is just plain better. If I didn't think it was that much better I wouldn't have upgraded both of my machines.

Ed

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12 years 1 month ago #7532 by reible
reible replied the topic: Re: Saw guard upgrade for Mark V
In case the "plan" goes bad.... and in case your wife decides someone here is to "blame" I just wanted you to know that Ron sometimes posts under my name, and well I think a few others do too.

As you all know when being chased by a bear you don't have to be faster then the bear, only faster then your buddy... and in this case I think I can beat Ron as his knee can't be coming along that fast.

Right now I'm working on getting a new lap top, they sure have come a long way since the late 90's... but I don't think the having one show up on the door step would work to well... especially since we will be traveling soon and when I travel I use my laptop with my GPS.... the new bigger more colorful screen would be watching us for 8 hours.... Not sure having to look at something she didn't get to help make the decision on would make for much of a good trip. Things you learn after 37 years of marriage.

Ed

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