Mark VII list of model differences

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9 years 11 months ago #9129 by mike malcolm
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RATS... I just spent 30 minutes composing a message[got interupped by the phone] and my post got deleted. I'll try again tomorrow

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9 years 11 months ago #9130 by DJ_
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Bummer Mike, I know how bad that feeling is.

I've gotten in the habit of selecting all my typed text and then right click the mouse to select 'copy'. This saves my longish posts to the clipboard and when I go to submit I no longer worry about losing all my efforts.

I think there is another item to add to the list

#12) Early Mark VIIs were manufactured by Yuba and have Yuba on the serial number plate. Newer Mark VIIs were manufactured by Magna America.

My Mark VII has Magna America on the serial number plate. My 1960 M5 and my bandsaw have Yuba markings.

If my theory is correct, then your M7(s) could have Yuba on the name plate. Can you check this?

I've got a link somewhere on the history of Magna being bought by Yuba in 1958. Then some employees bought the Shopsmith line and started Magna America some time in the 60s (but I couldn't find out when). Lastly, the information source stated that Magna America last manufactured a Shopsmith in 1966. So the newest Mark VIIs are 1966 units?

I'll try and dig up those links later this evening.

-DJ

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9 years 11 months ago #9138 by admin
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DJ,
Your images are fine.

You have a fine Mark VII judging by your images. Looks a ton better than mine :)

Nice post, very informative.

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9 years 11 months ago #9141 by DJ_
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Thanks Dylan,

Is your Mark VII a Yuba or a Magna American machine?

I promised some links on Shopsmith history, here they are:

http://www.owwm.com/MfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=747&tab=0

http://www.woodworkinghistory.com/chapter_7-5_technological_development.htm

I hope these come through better than the other attempt I made on the switch thread.

The first link to old wood working machines (owwm) has several links on the page to the various shopsmith companies. The only really firm date in the notes is the ceasing of machine production in 1966 by Magna American.

The second link has a newspaper quote documenting the sale of the shopsmith line from Magna Power Tool Corp. to Yuba Consolidated Ind.

There appears to be a number missing, but I think the date of the newspaper note is March 1958.

-DJ

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9 years 11 months ago #9153 by DJ_
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One more link to add here.

This is an article in Time magazine on Yuba Consolidated Industries and how the CEO did everything wrong. It's a good read and it provides a date for the selling of the Shopsmith line to the employees that started Magna American Inc. That was in late 1961 or early 1962. So Yuba machines are from 1958-1961.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,829149,00.html

I ran across a bunch of interesting trivia type articles on the Shopsmith and it's manufacturers. There was one court decision that documented an employee who arranged to buy a stolen bandsaw for $30 (regular employee discount price was ~$66). The guy lost his job and tried to sue, unsuccessfully. If you're interested you can see that here

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/old/F2/472/472.F2d.560.72-1338.html


DeWalt had an argument with the Shopsmith manufacturers:

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/289/289.F2d.656.6638.html

I also discovered that Magna American made a roto tiller in the 60s. It's too bad the employee owners of Magna American couldn't stay in business, but I'm glad the present owners of the Shopsmith tool line is managing to stay afloat.

-DJ

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8 years 6 months ago #10422 by dshoe
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I have Mark VII # 403743 and all the original paperwork that came with the machine when my Dad bought it in 1963 is copyrighted 1963 and Magna American is the manufacturer.

One brochure is titled " Introducing the Ultimate Shopsmith" and it is copyrighted 1963. On the back cover of this brochure, Magna accessories are advertised, including the band saw, jointer, belt sander, jig saw,air compressor and a double accessory power stand. They are all shown in the two-tone brown colors.

Of interest...the Mark VII shown on the cover of the " Introducing...." brochure is missing the red clutch handle.....but in the parts diagram, also copyrighted 1963, the clutch is shown.

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